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Today’s Episode
Our guest today, Claire Vo, is special for many reasons:
She has been a 3x CPO at some of the great SaaS companies (LaunchDarkly, Color, Optimizely)
She built ChatPRD, one of the most successful AI-powered tools for PMs (we had a quick demo about it here, but diving deep into today’s podcast)
She predicted the death of traditional PM roles and now, she’s showing what the future looks like.
In this episode - you guessed it right - we’re diving into all three.
By the end, you’ll have a roadmap to make yourself AI-proof and start building AI products that could change everything for you.
In this episode, we cover:
Why Product Management is Dead – 00:00:00
A PM’s Day: Two Years Ago vs. Two Years From Now – 00:27:50
Demo of her ChatPRD to Devin Development Workflow – 00:46:54
Advice for Building a Six-Figure Side Hustle – 01:02:37
Here were some of my favorite takeaways
1. The Traditional PM Role Is Dying
Product management as we know it is dying…
This is because the core tasks that defined PMs (stakeholder management, documentation, and even strategy) are being:
→ Automated — AI can generate high-quality work in minutes
→ Compressed in time — Meetings and coordination are being replaced with AI-driven workflows
→ Reduced in value — What once required human judgment is now AI-assisted or AI-led
PMs who define their value by these legacy tasks and don’t become AI-empowered PM will find themselves obsolete.
The future belongs to those who can deliver unique, high-leverage impact beyond process management.
2. The Era of the Super IC → Fewer PMs, More Impact
The PM org structure is flattening.
Instead of bloated teams with PM layers, future lies in:
→ Smaller, more powerful PM teams take on broader responsibilities.
→ Super ICs (high-leverage individual contributors) replace mid-level PM managers.
→ Engineers, designers, and AI systems take on work that was previously PM-exclusive.
The days of “managing the process” are over.
PMs must now operate as builders, domain experts, or business strategists — or risk becoming irrelevant.
Here are the attributes of Super IC:
3. Building a Multiple 6 figures AI Product
Her views on the death of traditional product management aren’t just hand-wavy speculation.
She is living proof of this transformation happening right in front of our eyes.
Her tool, ChatPRD, is widely used by PMs and teams for:
PRD creation → AI drafts, refines, and iterates on product specs
AI-powered collaboration → PMs can integrate AI into their workflow, removing bottlenecks
Workflow integrations → Connects with Slack, Notion, and Google Docs to keep work seamless
Who would have thought a PM could build a product for a few hundred dollars that generates six figures in revenue?
If that doesn’t make you want to start building, I don’t know what will.
(Check out my podcast with Colin, where we give you a tutorial of five essential AI tools for PMs.)
4. Advice for Builders & PMs Looking to Build AI Products
Most AI products don’t fail because of bad technology…
They fail because they solve the wrong problem or never find an audience.
To build successful AI-powered product, three principles include:
Solve real problems → Don’t build for the sake of AI; find a clear pressing market need. In fact, solve your own problems.
Embrace constraints → Bootstrapping forces you to stay laser-focused on what matters.
Prioritize distribution → If nobody knows your product exists, it is bound to fail even if its the best product in the world.
In short: Deep domain expertise + Relentless execution + AI leverage = success
5. If PM is Dead, Then What?
The PM title isn’t disappearing, but the role is evolving.
The future of PMs falls into two categories:
The Experience Manager → Focused on UX, prototyping, AI-driven workflows, and interaction design
The Commercial PM → Deeply involved in revenue, go-to-market strategy, and monetization
What’s disappearing?
The “middle-layer” PMs who just writes docs and coordinates teams.
PMs who don’t own business outcomes or build products themselves are at risk of being replaced by AI.
The question is: Will you adapt, or be left behind?
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Up Next
I hope you enjoyed the last episode with Colin Mathews (where we dived deep into 5 top AI tools tutorials). Up next, we have episodes with:
April Dunford (Marketing Expert and Author, Obviously Awesome)
Eric Simons (CEO and Founder, Bolt)
Gayle McDowell ( Author, Cracking the PM Interview)
Finally, check out my latest deep dive if you haven’t yet: System Design Interview for (Technical) PMs: How to Ace It
Cheers,
Aakash